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	<title>Comments on: Bethrick Responds (Part 2 of 3)</title>
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		<title>By: N. W. Hewett</title>
		<link>http://apolojet.wordpress.com/2007/04/29/bethrick-responds-part-2-of-3/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>N. W. Hewett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting...  I like what you have to say.

To Tim&#039;s comment... that&#039;s pretty ridiculous man.  So, in context, the Bible only condemns &amp; forbids murder but doesn&#039;t say it&#039;s wrong?  To think what parenting would be like if children didn&#039;t understand something was wrong by their parents saying &quot;Don&#039;t do this&quot; or &quot;I forbid you to do this.&quot;  Read the Bible in context &amp; take to mind the explicit &amp; implicit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230;  I like what you have to say.</p>
<p>To Tim&#8217;s comment&#8230; that&#8217;s pretty ridiculous man.  So, in context, the Bible only condemns &amp; forbids murder but doesn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s wrong?  To think what parenting would be like if children didn&#8217;t understand something was wrong by their parents saying &#8220;Don&#8217;t do this&#8221; or &#8220;I forbid you to do this.&#8221;  Read the Bible in context &amp; take to mind the explicit &amp; implicit.</p>
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		<title>By: McBrolloks</title>
		<link>http://apolojet.wordpress.com/2007/04/29/bethrick-responds-part-2-of-3/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>McBrolloks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ballad of the Caveman Fundie - by Con-Tester

A fundie born of parents young,
soon baptised in a cave,
as other fundies praised and sung
of hopes beyond the grave.

The leader of his cavish clan
with stern and chiding air
spoke reams on death and god’s great plan,
on evils to beware.

The risks of thought and doubt made plain,
these warnings rudely prod:
a burning hell of endless pain
awaits the foes of god.

Their future is a life of bliss,
forever and a day!
’Twas paid for by a Judas kiss
and he to whom they pray.

“May part of us rise up to god
upon the day we die!
Our bodies buried in the sod
will follow by and by!”

But reason is god’s stoutest foe,
the fundies all agree,
while grunting in their caves of woe
how privileged they be.

And so they taught the young man tales
as though the tales were real,
of virtue vested in three nails
that mankind’s ills would heal.

Before the youngster had a chance
to learn of reason pure,
his teachers held him in a trance,
a questing mind to cure.

And crippled thus, with no defence,
his fettered mind gave in:
to query fables made no sense,
a frightful, mortal sin!

But every time the fables clash
with sober facts stripped bare,
the fundie caveman comes out brash
to fight the ones who dare.

With grunts and howls and swinging sticks,
they raze a broken track
through men of straw and tired tricks,
at truth they vainly hack.

And when the day’s brave fight is done,
they draw back to their hide,
and wait that Luna ousts the sun,
to howl with baleful pride.

The joke’s on them, themselves they bind,
their efforts cannot quell
the sharpness of a thinking mind
they would condemn to hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ballad of the Caveman Fundie &#8211; by Con-Tester</p>
<p>A fundie born of parents young,<br />
soon baptised in a cave,<br />
as other fundies praised and sung<br />
of hopes beyond the grave.</p>
<p>The leader of his cavish clan<br />
with stern and chiding air<br />
spoke reams on death and god’s great plan,<br />
on evils to beware.</p>
<p>The risks of thought and doubt made plain,<br />
these warnings rudely prod:<br />
a burning hell of endless pain<br />
awaits the foes of god.</p>
<p>Their future is a life of bliss,<br />
forever and a day!<br />
’Twas paid for by a Judas kiss<br />
and he to whom they pray.</p>
<p>“May part of us rise up to god<br />
upon the day we die!<br />
Our bodies buried in the sod<br />
will follow by and by!”</p>
<p>But reason is god’s stoutest foe,<br />
the fundies all agree,<br />
while grunting in their caves of woe<br />
how privileged they be.</p>
<p>And so they taught the young man tales<br />
as though the tales were real,<br />
of virtue vested in three nails<br />
that mankind’s ills would heal.</p>
<p>Before the youngster had a chance<br />
to learn of reason pure,<br />
his teachers held him in a trance,<br />
a questing mind to cure.</p>
<p>And crippled thus, with no defence,<br />
his fettered mind gave in:<br />
to query fables made no sense,<br />
a frightful, mortal sin!</p>
<p>But every time the fables clash<br />
with sober facts stripped bare,<br />
the fundie caveman comes out brash<br />
to fight the ones who dare.</p>
<p>With grunts and howls and swinging sticks,<br />
they raze a broken track<br />
through men of straw and tired tricks,<br />
at truth they vainly hack.</p>
<p>And when the day’s brave fight is done,<br />
they draw back to their hide,<br />
and wait that Luna ousts the sun,<br />
to howl with baleful pride.</p>
<p>The joke’s on them, themselves they bind,<br />
their efforts cannot quell<br />
the sharpness of a thinking mind<br />
they would condemn to hell.</p>
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		<title>By: compassiondave</title>
		<link>http://apolojet.wordpress.com/2007/04/29/bethrick-responds-part-2-of-3/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>compassiondave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy!
 
WORDPRESS says that our two blogs (at least our most recent posts) are related, so I came by to check you out--I hope you enjoy my slant on the topic.  Please stop by my blog and let me know what you think: &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://compassiondave.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jesus + Compassion&lt;/a&gt;.
 
God bless you!
 
Cd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy!</p>
<p>WORDPRESS says that our two blogs (at least our most recent posts) are related, so I came by to check you out&#8211;I hope you enjoy my slant on the topic.  Please stop by my blog and let me know what you think: <a HREF="http://compassiondave.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Jesus + Compassion</a>.</p>
<p>God bless you!</p>
<p>Cd</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 18:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bible never says murder is wrong. I just says not to do it. Why? Because man is made in the image of God? How is that make murder wrong? The Bible only forbids these actions. It never offers a clear reason for its wrongness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bible never says murder is wrong. I just says not to do it. Why? Because man is made in the image of God? How is that make murder wrong? The Bible only forbids these actions. It never offers a clear reason for its wrongness.</p>
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		<title>By: BPF</title>
		<link>http://apolojet.wordpress.com/2007/04/29/bethrick-responds-part-2-of-3/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>BPF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 04:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re going to talk more about this in a later post, or if you&#039;ve talked about it elsewhere, but it seems to keep coming up with you and &quot;Bethrick&quot;)
Bethrick, you claim, understands God&#039;s sovereignty to mean that humans are like &quot;puppets on a string&quot;, and you mention that this isn&#039;t correct. Can you shed any light on any option between a belief in Fate that will happen no matter what so nothing matters (like it seems Bethrick understands you), and a denial of God&#039;s sovereignty (which sovereignty you want to affirm it seems)? Or are there some good books on this?
Thanks.
-BPF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re going to talk more about this in a later post, or if you&#8217;ve talked about it elsewhere, but it seems to keep coming up with you and &#8220;Bethrick&#8221;)<br />
Bethrick, you claim, understands God&#8217;s sovereignty to mean that humans are like &#8220;puppets on a string&#8221;, and you mention that this isn&#8217;t correct. Can you shed any light on any option between a belief in Fate that will happen no matter what so nothing matters (like it seems Bethrick understands you), and a denial of God&#8217;s sovereignty (which sovereignty you want to affirm it seems)? Or are there some good books on this?<br />
Thanks.<br />
-BPF</p>
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